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February 2011

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My fellow Americans...

Every first Friday of the month, the Groningen Couchsurfing (CS) community meets in town for drinks and conversation. I love things like this. My linguistics program keeps me busy and it's difficult to meet new people in a new city outside of my program and apartment building. Couchsurfing meetings are how I met most of my friends in Utrecht, and I think they're equally as affective in meeting people here.

So last Friday I welcomed my couchsurfer Svenja, a sweet girl from Germany, who is au pairing in the Netherlands. As I recently wrapped up my au pairship and she is just beginning, we had a lot of stories to exchange. After dinner, we went to the Groningen CS meeting where we met a lot of nice people. In some cases, I remet people from September's meeting, the last monthly meeting I attended. My favorite part about Couchsurfing meetings is it gathers people from different countries and diverse backgrounds who have two things in common: passions for travel and foreign cultures.

About midway through the evening, a Dutch guy (let's call him Stom, stupid in Dutch) came to my side of the table. We exchanged introductions, and when Stom found out I was from the States, he responded with, “your country sucks.”

Stom proceeded to sit right next to me in an attempt to carry on a conversation. I sat in shock as I do not usually get harsh responses from Couchsurfers. He kept asking questions, and I responded with one word answers where possible, displaying my lack of interest in his presence. He gave me a look when he finally realized this, and I responded with, “how do you expect me to have a pleasant conversation with you when you greet me by bashing my country?”

Stom went on to defend himself, insisting California is a cool place to be from and is not covered under his definition of the US. Clearly Stom did not take US geography, but as he's from the Netherlands and North American geography was likely not part of his educational curriculum, I chose to enlighten him with the fact that California is part of the United States, and when he says my country “sucks,” that includes California. I also mentioned his greeting is not perceived as appropriate discourse in westernized countries.

The dispute ended, and silence lingered. This stubborn Stom guy refused to leave the table. Eventually one of my new German acquaintances, Kaja, insisted he “try” the other side of the table. What a pleasant way to paraphrase “get the fuck out of here.”

I say with great sorrow that I'm getting used to people telling me about how much they think the United States “sucks.” These individuals usually feel the way they do for political reasons, and then they often group Americans into Bush loving, McDonald's eating idiots. I find myself defending my country constantly when I just want to have a nice conversation, and I'm less desiring of political conversations for this reason. But instead of feeling ashamed for some of the less than pleasant things the United States is responsible for, I'm embracing qualities I didn't notice prior to my January 2008 departure, and I'm more patriotic than ever.


After growing up in the United States, living in France, Madagascar, Italy and the Netherlands and traveling extensively, I realize each place is different with its own pros and cons. No one country is better than another, and I include war torn nations in this statement. I find it unfair and unrealistic to think all citizens from a particular country love their government and behave in a certain manner. People have the right to be an individual, so when meeting new people look at that rather than casting them into the pool of their home country stereotypes.

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When I traveled in Central and South America, I expected a variety of responses when I said I was an American, especially considering our countries centuries of involvement in things in that region that were none of our business. I was pleased that I did not receive any negativity from any locals, and only one fellow traveler was anti-American, always telling me "Yanks suck". He was English and I think he's still bitter about the American revolution. Most people didn't care about my nationality, they just wanted to know what my experience was in the place I was from. many others told me they understood not all Americans were close minded and rough around the edges, or like Bush. This unfortunate fellow you met should understand that "Your country sucks" is really not a great way to meet people of any nationality.
This could be is something citizens of developed countries do: criticize the heck out of others. I didn't receive negative attitudes toward being American in Africa or Eastern Europe. I found Malagasy and Moroccan people to be especially warm, friendly and inquisitive. This model would also support your experience.

By the way, if the Dutch had not traded New York for Suriname, you would have gotten along with your British travel friend! My Dutch friends often talk about how things could have been different had they known the potential. Imagine Dutch as the international language!
A lot of the locals I met, especially in the very rural locations, talked about how wonderful it must be to live in such a wealthy nation. So many people told me about their cousin or other relative who was living in the US. I imagine that more education brings more information about America's current and past involvement in world affairs and thus brings more criticism.

There has got to be an alternate history written about Dutch America somewhere. What a different world it would be. I think Andrew would still have found something to complain about with Americans :)
I am going to see if such a thing is written. :) Will report back on that!
He was probably just sore about World War 2.
People should just get over it :-P
It's one of those disappointments that I expect travellers to be a little more conscious of the world and the people around them, but some believe that you're directly responsible for the actions of your govenment and the your less intellig...ent countrymen. I backpacked during the start of the Iraq invasion, and I hated seeing perfectly decent Americans being attacked simply for their nationality. I had a similar experience when a friend introduced me to a Dutch girl who'd au-pair'd in Ireland - 'the family said you British were all bastards' was her first words to me. Another girl I met while backpacking shreiked at me about the my personal role in the Irish potato famine in the 1850s. Pity they didn't ask me about where my grandparents came from before making themselves look utterly stupid... By the same logic, why not hate Indians, Chinese or Iranians because of what their ruling class do?
All I can say is if people are offensive to you because of the country of your origin, then take them up on it - the sooner they realise their opinions are invalid, the sooner they'll give up sharing them!